|Q. You once said, that the seven steps of
transformation are all interconnected. Does that mean, that A New World View evolves from
the previous step: A New Spirituality?
A. Generally every
truly new impulse evolves from the Source. Hence, going back to the Great Mother is a
pre-requisite for a new culture to be born. Insight, inspiration and creativity derived
from spiritual Experience subsequently translate themselves into a new philosophy,
something I call A New World View.
Q. How would you characterize it?
A. First of all an understanding of our existential suffering would
be very revealing. The mechanism is as follows. Our greatest fear is fear of Nothingness
which is equal to fear of death. Because of this we desperately cling to our self-image,
which we call ego. Within a certain framework this is a useful structure. It prevents us
from becoming overwhelmed. However, identifying ourselves this way alienates us from
"the rest" of reality: our deeper Self, our suppressed emotions, our bodies etc.
Q. By being identified with ourselves we are cut off from a greater
A. Indeed. You may define it as "having lost contact with
Heaven, earth and the community". Although it sounds a little artificial, you may
also say, that our consciousness is alienated from the Divine, our body is separated from
nature and our soul is estranged from the community. We are totally "thrown upon
ourselves", which is the essence of individualism.
Q. In the previous sector you have talked about giving up your ego
in order to become reborn. How is this possible, since this is exactly the thing the ego
is most anxious about?
A. This is a very good question indeed. It is a vicious circle. On
the one hand the ego longs for breaking out from its prison, on the other hand this
provokes its greatest fear. There are several ways of dealing with it. One is meditation,
in which you step by step develop your inner awareness. With every progress some of the
old identification drops spontaneously. The other way is that of devotion. It is here that
the Great Mother plays a major role. In Her Bottomless Abyss everything dies while being
Q. Thus by surrendering to the Great Mother.....
A. Once you understand, that Nothingness is in fact the
All-Embracing Cosmic Mother, your fear of Nothingness will turn into trust. Surrendering
to Her will grant you the greatest gift possible: getting rid of your existential fear,
while being reborn as a New Self.
Q. For many people this is the ultimate goal.
A. Individual rebirth is the first step toward salvation. It
corresponds with the "destruction/creation" part of the Mother's Law of the
Universe. In order to be in harmony with the Cosmos, this Law has still another
requirement. It is the "permanence" part. It means, that personal liberation is
just an intermediary step. It has to be followed by fitting in into the Whole once again,
something I have called restoring the unity with "Heaven, earth and the (new)
Q. In this stage personal liberation has to become integrated into a
A. Exactly. The "permanence" aspect of the Great Mother is
the Web of Life, the interconnectedness of all beings, things and events. That's why the
Mother is also called the Weaver. Without Her Web life wouldn't be possible. It is
corresponding with an ecological point of view. Seen from this perspective the community
(of people, animals, plants etc.) has an utmost priority.
Q. Does this correspond with your New World View?
A. Life is only complete, when you have restored the unity with
"Heaven, earth and the (new) community". It is our existential situation.
Whether you are a Christian, Muslim, Hindu etc. this is what we all share. It is based on
"feminine" values like inclusiveness, interconnectedness, durability,
solidarity, wholeness, love, friendship and justice.
Q. These values are constantly under threat, it seems to me. How
would you "implement" them?
A. First of all, it is depending on individual transformation. The
more people find their way "back Home", the more the message will spread. On the
other hand there are socio-economic forces, which are very hostile toward wholeness. It is
absolutely necessary to recognize these foreces and to deal with them.
Q. Who are they?
A. Individual and social (collective) addiction are an extension of
each other. On the personal level ignorance is defined by being unconsciously addicted to
thoughts, emotions and desires. Once addicted to "your own" thoughts, you will
be automatically victim to the thought manipulations of the current system. Especially
those influences, that are promoting individualism and materialism are the main
Q. The very things which keep our society going.
A. Our "society" has be differentiated in two parts. One
is the science/technology/ economics part while the other is the part we call community
composed of people, their habitats and their activities and everything related to it. The
problem nowadays is, that the former has become an alien body in society, pursuing its own
goals e.g. through profits, progress, expansion and accumulation. Their greed is
responsible for worldwide disintegration, homogenization (German:
"Gleichschaltung"), fragmentation and vulgarization of the masses.
Q. That is quite a statement. Could you elaborate on it a little?
A. The market economy is a system focussed on profit and
accumulation. In order to achieve this, they have to achieve growth. This growth is
necessary to satisfy the shareholders and to invest in further expansion. This expansion
in its turn is necessary to guarantee growth and profits. Thus, inherent to the system is
that "new markets" have to be found all the time.
Q. Please, continue.
A. It is putting enormous pressure on every citizin. They
deliberately and ruthlessly try to promote self-centeredness, egoism and greed. It is in
their interest that people become addicted to having. In order to achieve this
unprecedented brain-washing is dominating our lives. Moreover, to a family of five you
only sell one car, sofa or fridge; to five singles you sell fivefold. It can't go wrong
Q. Which means?
A. That the current socio-economic system and spirituality are
excluding each other. Materialism, accumulation, individualism and fragmentation are a
"sin" against the Law of the Universe. The latter doesn't tolerate accumulation
and fragmentation. While spirituality tries to restore the dignity of people, emphasizing
the Divine Spark in every human being, promoting compassion and solidarity, the system on
the other hand tries to break that down by reducing everybody to a "consumer",
"client" or "object".
Q. Which you consider intolerable.
A. What about you?