The Original Great Mother Tradition
Mother Worship

MatriTalks 46


Questions & Answers
Han Marie Stiekema Sermes

Q. In one of your earlier talks, you referred to the damage inflicted on the Mother's "Web of Life". Could you further elaborate on that?

A. The Web of Life is another word for the interconnectedness of the universe: space, matter, time, gases, elements, atoms, viruses, bacteria, fungi, plants, fishes, amphibian, reptiles, birds and mammals, including humans. Ecology divides life in species, populations, communities and ecosystems, as mutual interdependent realms. It is confirming the original concept of the Web.

Q. Obviously, this Web has become disintegrated in many ways. From the community to the family, from biodiversity to the atmosphere, from the countryside to the city. The problem is huge. Where to lay the emphasis?

A. First of all, it is the spiritual dimension, that has to serve as a starting point. The Web of Life is not "a separate entity", but has its Origin in the Mother. Before we try to interfere ourselves, we first have "to consult Her". In doing so, we will understand, that the Web as Her creation is of utmost concern to Her, manifested by Her uninterrupted Care for Balance. Earthly life should reflect this Her concern by doing the same.

Q. What are the consequences with regard to the human community?

A. The illusion of "independence" is striking. The average citizen thinks, that he or she lives a highly individualized, "free" and independent life, while in reality, dependency has never been to total. We know everything from the latest world news to computer programs, from a trendy novel to the latest car, from job chances to cheap holidays, from the latest music to the discounts of the supermarket. We live in a virtual world, in which we totally lost contact with the basic requirements of life, though. A child of eight, who, for the first time in his life sees a cow, for instance.

Q. People have everything they want, while not being aware of the price, they have to pay for it.

A. People have become totally dependent on things "from without". The centri-fugal forces of an addicted society, has undermined the "substance" of life. The family is just a campground for activities outside. At school, children are brainwashed to become the slaves of technology. They know everything about the computer, but almost nothing about (daily) life. Moreover, these dependencies are in itself highly vulnerable. Take the internet, electricity, water supply, transportation lines, oil reserve, apart from the vulnerability through limited resources, the pollution, climate change, nuclear energy, terrorism and the like.

Q. This concern remains superficial though. The population at large, doesn't seem to be that worried yet.

A. That is exactly the point. What happens, if the population suddenly grasps in what kind of situation they are in? This is no imagination. Any major disaster, of which many say will happen anywhere in the future, will have dramatic consequences on communities, nations or even continents. Needless to say, that it will be too late then. Governments are totally irresponsible in this regard. Hence, the people themselves have to start reclaiming the substance, the foundation of life.

Q. What do you mean by "substance?"

A. The first written account of the value of substance (or "subsistence") goes back to the Mother inspired "Great Learning", one of the four classics of Confucianism. It a.o. says: "How can you rule the state, if you don't manage your property well; how to manage your property, if you fail to taking care of your household; how to take care of your household, if you yourself are not balanced?

Q. Is this the text your entire work is based on?

A. That's right. It shows the Mother's concern for her Web of Life. Translated to our current situation, it means, that "a good life" depends on whether one may be able to draw concentric circles from the center to the periphery. It means to built a life on real substance. Thus, starting with yourself, your health, your beloved, your household, your work, your garden, your neighbors, the street, the district, the commune etc., everything should become interrelated as an integrated whole. In order to make it work, one should reclaim "productive activities" as part of the household.

Q. To take as much things in your own hand, once again.

A. What has happened in the last decades (it started much earlier) is, that people have turned from being "subjects" into "objects". Instead of being the center of self-generating activities, they are reduced to "consumers", targets for PR and marketing of big business. By becoming slaves in the "labor market", you have lost an important saying over your own life. Others exploit your creativity and productivity, in favor of (their) profit making. It seems to give you "security", "income" and "work satisfaction". The opposite is true though. In fact, you are at the mercy of the whimsicalities of the "market-economy". Today there is work, tomorrow you are jobless.

Q. How to end this situation of insecurity?

A. The community has to once again become the foundation of productivity. It starts with the family. The family has to agree on the fact, that the centri-fugal forces of addiction are a main factor, responsible for its disintegration. The first measure therefore, is to cut off all irrelevant information, that are flooding across your household. It varies from putting away the TV, newspapers, advertising material to limiting your work on the computer. Instead, you may re-introduce all kinds of creative activity, focusing on those, which contribute to self-reliance. Hence, emphasis is laid on cooking, (organic) gardening (vegetables), house repair, painting, healing, art, music, writing, weaving, computer, machines, handicrafts and other traditional methods. Subsequently, after you have acquired a broad basis, you turn to one or more things, that correspond to your special talents and creativity. Eventually, you try to make these activities the starting point for productivity.   

Q. This seems to be a good idea; in practice, the revenues of the families' sales will not be high enough to pay all the costs, though. Isn't it?

A.  First of all, it is about turning from being an "object" into becoming a "subject". You have to finish dependency relationships, not only with regard to the outward world, but also within, psychologically. Doing so, an entire new source of energy will become available. It has its impact on all members of the family. Rather than using the house as a place of recuperation from the stress, suffered in the outside world, the home becomes a place of inspiration and vibrant energy. The reason people get tired of working, is not because of the work itself, but because you don't get a feedback from it. The results of the work are not yours, that is the problem. To work on individual and community substance, on the other hand, is highly fulfilling. The miracle is this: once you have established a productive, meaningful and joyful life, the relationships with your immediate surroundings change accordingly. It is the foundation of a new style self and mutual assistance.

Q. How you persuade your children to go along with you?

A. Promoting values like creativity, productivity, self-reliance, cooperation, consensus etc. will sooner or later open the eyes of your children as well. Be sure, they will compare their old and their new lifestyle all the time. They are very well able to draw their own conclusion. A great help will be to convince other families to do the same. Setting the example, is where it is all about.

Q. Summarizing: what are the steps to be taken in order to be successful?

A. First of all, you considerably start reducing your costs of everyday life. You try to reduce it to a minimum. Secondly, you do only that work in the outside world, that covers these costs. In many cases, part time work will be sufficient to bring in cash. Thirdly, women are taking the lead here. If those conditions are met, then you may start your "subsistence homeworking".

Q. Why the emphasis on women?

A. Women are the subsistence of life. They have the overview, the experience, the motivation, the feeling, the commitment, the right, the intelligence, the contacts, guaranteeing a prosperous course of events. Together with all other members of the family/group, they are the basis of a new Self-governing Community.

Q. So, instead of being a bottomless pit, self and mutual help will receive a new impulse, once the basic condition of productivity has been restored?

A. Especially "mutual assistance" gained a bad reputation, because it was given to people, who had made themselves totally dependent on the system. To them receiving is never enough. Although they sometimes pretend "to give", their ultimate driving force is to rely on others. Logically, those who tried to help, sooner or later got exhausted. Our self and mutual help is based on people, who themselves have become productive first, though. Mutual assistance will thus empower both parties involved.

Q. I remember, even President Roosevelt cherished ideas like this.

A. That's right. His "New Land" policy was very much based on "subsistence homesteading"*. There seems to be a "Calvinist Connection" in this regard. Probably, because they feel guilty of having given a boost to capitalism, they did something in return. Remarkable initiatives not only coming from the US, but from a.o. Switzerland** and The Netherlands*** as well. However, the main incentive comes from eco-feminism. Her main representatives - Maria Mies, Veronika Bennholdt-Thomsen and Claudia von Werlhof - did a lot of theoretical work on this issue. With regard to the practical part, the "Third World" is really most inspiring.

* ** Bioterra homestead organic gardening.*** A. Kuyper's "Self-sovereignty on all levels of society".

Q. And for you personally, are you planning to go into "subsistence homeworking?"

A. Through my work I am praising the Great Mother, as the Source of the subsistence of the entire universe, including myself.

That we may do everything to cooperate with Her in healing Her Web of Life.

Her Web of Life, it is us.

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