MatriTalks 71
EVOLUTION
Questions
& Answers
with
Han Marie Stiekema Sermes
Q. Since Teilhard de Chardin, the idea of
"evolution toward Cosmic Consciousness" became widespread. Some spiritual
teachers cherish this idea today. What would be your comments?
A. Strictly spoken, there
cannot be an "evolution toward Consciousness". First of all, Consciousness is
there all the time. It is not an outcome of a (our) process. On the other hand, it is all
a matter of "parallel layers", consisting of our mental, emotional,
"etherical" (subtle energy) and Consciousness layers, going from the surface to
the depth. To become Conscious is not a matter of "going forward" - as suggested
by the "evolutionists" - but a matter of "stepping back", making a
leap in your own depth.
Q. How could this idea evolve in the
first place?
A. Teilhard was a
paleontologist. He looked at the spiritual Realm from the perspective of material
evolution e.g. the Darwinist concept of development of species. Only to be very welcomed
by those, who believe in "progress", the idea, that things are becoming better
all the time.
Q. In one of your earlier interviews, you
talked about the link between "progress" and fear of Nothingness. Maybe it is
useful to remind us about it.
A. The greatest fear of the ego
is to fall back into the primordial Darkness, from which it has evolved. It therefore is
obsessed by escaping from it. Obviously, this only can be achieved by a flight ahead,
making the distance between you and the Source as big as possible. In short:
"progress is equal to fear of the Mother".
Q. Actually, isn't it quite unexpected,
that this idea has been picked up by spiritual teachers as well?
A. It is based on the same
mechanism though. Most teachers represent dualism, in which they identify with the Light
at the expense of Darkness. Like "Christ" who conquered Darkness", etc.
Q. So Christianity also contributed to this
idea.
A. Absolutely. As I said
before, the greatest concern of the church were people realizing their True Nature. The
former therefore very much feared the HereNow. Hence, they "replaced" it by the
idea of future redemption. "If you behave well (are obedient), then you will
go to heaven". By destroying the context of life: "Heaven and earth", the
people were "thrown back" on their ego's, their minds. To the church this was
very safe indeed, because the mind can never be in the HereNow. It is always projecting in
some future. The idea of linear time - religion was said to be a historical process
- was finally accepted by the population at large.
Q. After having paid the price.
A. By forgetting their
innermost Core, which is timeless.*
* Time is related to the degree of expansion of
awareness. Imagine a wide panorama in front of you. If your awareness is limited, in order
to see the entire panorama, you have to look in bits and pieces. Going from here to there
takes time. If, on the other hand your awareness is limitless, you will see the entire
panorama at a single glance. In this case there is no time.
Q. So, what is exactly left of the idea of
evolution? Does it still has some meaning?
A. Historical time belongs to
the mental world. It cannot be applied to Eternity. Sitting in the train from Amsterdam to
Rotterdam, I AM not going anywhere (big laughter).
Q. Finished and over?
A. Not exactly (smiling). From
a spiritual perspective "evolution" is vertical. It includes dissolving into
your Origin, that Which you Are from Eternity. No time is involved. However, this doesn't
last forever. Sooner or later, you will separate yourself from the Source, descending to
more "common" planes of Consciousness. Coming back "from the Other
Shore" you start sharing your experiences with other people. Thus, the vertical
Dimension becoming fruitful to the world.
Q. The vertical fertilizing the
horizontal.
A. If my awareness becomes
Space, it automatically includes everything in it. It is like the space of the room,
containing the chairs, the table, the carpet etc. Space embraces its content. Embracing
"your content" is to love it.*
* This is contrary to
"transferring" awakening from teacher to student based on personal ambition, as
can be observed today. Serving spiritual self-centeredness only, it will be a dead end.
Q. Stepping back spiritually to subsequently
stimulating developments, that may create "a better world".
A. That's right. The world,
however, is subjected to the "Law of the Universe". Together with the
consequences of our behavior - accumulation and exploitation - we are in a time of
disintegration and decay.
Q. Which neutralizes the impact of spiritual
Realization.
A. Not at all. Spiritual
Realization, being equal to heeding the call of going back to the Source, exactly
indicates to which direction mankind has to go, in order to be saved: from the periphery
to the Center.
Q. A kind of "reverse
evolution".
A. That is how you indeed may
call it. Both the Cosmos and us have overstretched themselves, leading to fragmentation,
alienation and individualism. It characterizes the time we are in. The "exciting
thing" is, that we have the choice to either comply with the Cosmic Process, which
consists of making a U-turn, or commit suicide.
Q. The latter being equal to what
fundamentalists call the "apocalypse" or what ecologists call the "sixth
wave of extinction".
A. Contrary to them, this is
not a "law" to me, but would be the consequence of human stupidity only.
Q. If this would happen, what according to you,
could become a scenario?
A. Well, apart from the
disasters already prophesied....the most "logical" cause of events will be, that
the latest achievements - technology, big cities, social "coherence",
communications, transportation lines - will be broken down first. The basics will hold out
longer.
Q. What could give people a grain of optimism?
A. Take Refuge in the Mother.
Die to the old, and become reborn. Subsequently fit in into "Heaven, earth and the
(new) community", once again. For those, who would like to study a very learned
historian, who has written about the rise and fall of civilizations, read my essay about A. Toynbee.
Back to basics.
Become available.
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